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"The Lord is all that, I need for nothing, he allows me to chill."

That, apparently, is what is substituted by the congregation at the Trinity Episcopal Church in the Bronx for the more conventional form of the 23rd Psalm, according to a rather queasiness inducing item in the Washington Post on would be hip hop vicar, Timothy Holder. He's white and middle aged, natch.
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Anonymous Anonymous said... 3:32 pm

The gigantic, lumpen lack of understanding is simply breathtaking. He's doing the world a favour, though, as adherents and practitioners of hip-hop will drop it like a stone the minute they hear this.

I see he's middle aged and has only been a priest for nine years. I wonder what he was before? A failure in show business?  



Blogger Croydonian said... 3:44 pm

Must say that attempts by similar people to 'get down wiv the kids' always seem to fail horribly. My school would occasionally inflict homilies from a 'street english' Christian work for prisoners on us, and it was toe-curlingly awful. Even though it wasn't a boarding school, I think it cut a bit to near to the bone, inter alia.  



Blogger The Hitch said... 3:54 pm

hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiilarious
reminds me of that clown deputy chief constable of wales who adressed a meeting of black police officers with a rap.
cringes all round.

and before anybody else says it why should there be a meeting purely for black police officers.  



Blogger Croydonian said... 3:58 pm

And you never hear of a black minister attempting a morris dance to connect with white congregants, do you?  



Blogger The Hitch said... 4:03 pm

I live opposite a baptist church and the congregation is mainly Bajan , you couldnt get more typicaly English people , sunday morning is like a throwback to the 1950's.  



Blogger Croydonian said... 4:06 pm

Same here. All of the church going black folk that I ever see are dressed up and behaving in a very sedate manner.  



Anonymous Anonymous said... 4:17 pm

My best ever is the vicar who thought a joke about hanging japs was acceptable in his autumnal greeting

"A nip in the air" Chortle .( True)
Unctious vicar non humour is endless and thought of whilst sipping a half with that clammy simper of the dog collared in pubs.

Yes I`m a little like you simper beam etc.
As an atheist can`t I have something I`m not allowed to wear? I feel left out  



Blogger The Hitch said... 4:19 pm

"black folk"
A very good friend of mine is black and we were talking about how black people feel about being called black or whatever he told me black is fine, its only a problem with white liberals who want to call them afro caribs or even worse african americans (he has american relatives) as far as he is concerned he is a brit and that's it. His uncles are Americans and thats it.
As a child I was told to refer to black people as either a coloured gentleman or a coloured lady rather than some of the other words I had picked up.  



Blogger The Hitch said... 4:21 pm

mr mania i disagree (again)
it was a crap joke but so what?
and if you want to find some rascists japan is probably the best place to start looking  



Blogger Croydonian said... 4:26 pm

N - I strongly approve of men and women of the cloth wearing dog collars when out and about, as it puts you on your toes. Same with off duty plod.

PH - It is a minefield. Use 'black' in the US and you'll be in trouble, use 'African-British' here and you will get odd looks at best. I aim to use whichever word is regarded as the norm wherever and to avoid giving offence through laziness etc. Seems like a matter of manners to me.  



Anonymous Anonymous said... 4:29 pm

PH What with ? I don`t care about japs . A vicar put this in his news letter and got defrocked or something about 6 weeks ago. I laughed a pitiless uncaring laugh. Ha ha ha .

Mixed race or half caste is causing politeness issues at the moment.( For me)  



Blogger Croydonian said... 4:34 pm

N - I think the bleeding edge usage is bi-racial or multi-racial. Good luck....  



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